More on the Hypocrisy of the Irish Chattering Class

Brian Rossiter - just 842 pages from Ireland
written about the death of the 14 year old
in a cold Police cell in Clonmel

Related Post: Hypocritical Irish Scumbags

I decided that I may have been a little too harsh in condemning the Irish People as "Hypocritical Scumbags" when I based that previous post on the results of two simple Google searches. You see, I merely searched for the words "Shane" and "Geoghegan" and then counted the results, eg:

Google Search pages from Ireland: Shane Geoghegan

Results 1 - 10 of about 37,300 for Shane Geoghegan. (0.18 seconds)

So that would have brought up all pages from Ireland with the words "Shane" and "Geoghegan" in them. But how do we know these pages even refer to the Shane Geoghegan we were searching for? After all, if a page made reference to a Shane Boylan and an Andy Geoghegan then that page would also appear in our search.

Similarly, I searched for for the separate words "Brian" and "Rossiter" and then counted the results, eg:

Google Search pages from Ireland: Brian Rossiter

Results 1 - 10 of about 8,030 for Brian Rossiter. (0.09 seconds)

So that would have brought up all pages from Ireland with the words "Brian" and "Rossiter" in them. But how do we know these pages even refer to the Brian Rossiter we were searching for?

So I decided to refine the search, in order to prove or disprove my point.

I loaded the exact phrase "Shane Geoghegan" and "Limerick" into Google's Advanced Search feature, which would return all pages from Ireland with the exact phrase "Shane Geoghegan" as well as the word "Limerick".

Similarly I loaded the exact phrase "Brian Rossiter" and "Clonmel" into Google's Advanced Search feature, which would return all pages from Ireland with the exact phrase "Brian Rossiter" as well as the word "Clonmel".

The results of the Google jury were:

Google Search pages from Ireland: "Shane Geoghegan" AND Limerick

Results 1 - 10 of about 46,500 for "Limerick" + "Shane Geoghegan".

So that is 46,500 pages from Ireland discussing the death of Shane Geoghegan in Limerick.

And for the 14 year old dead boy:

Google Search pages from Ireland: "Brian Rossiter" AND Clonmel

Results 1 - 10 of about 842 for "Clonmel" + "Brian Rossiter".

Now that is 842 pages from Ireland discussing the death of 14 year old Brian Rossiter in a Police cell in Clonmel.

That's far, FAR worse than I thought.

So it looks like I was right: The Irish People really REALLY ARE a bunch of Hypocritical Scumbags . . .

They live in a society that ignores the illegal actions of Gardai, while screaming for more law and order to tackle the ‘crime wave’

Maybe if the idiots demanded that Gardai caught breaking the law be sent to jail as often as poor people from the sink estates of Limerick go to jail when they break the law then we might be able to restore some respect for the law in this country.

If the people that are supposed to uphold the law are allowed to act with impunity, which they very obviously are, then what right we be outraged when others decide to break the law?

People are talking about marches to demand the killers of Shane Geoghegan be punished for their crimes.

Why are the same people not as outraged when grown men wearing police uniforms batter a 14 year old child to death in a cold cell in Clonmel?

To me the second of those is far more despicable then the first - simply because the Garda have SWORN to uphold the law

Brian Rossiter’s last week on this Earth consisted of series of violent attacks on his person by grown men twice his size. He died alone in a cold cell in Clonmel because the Irish people refuse to deal with the fact that Garda can do what they like without any fear of retribution, legal or otherwise. Where is the outrage?

Do people not realise that scumbags see this and see no reason why they too should follow the law?

I DO understand how people can get very militant in the wake of the behaviour that lead to the tragic death of Mr Geoghegan - BUT at the same time I find myself grasping for reasons to explain the almost deafening silence amongst the ‘plain people of Ireland’ regarding the death of the 14 year old boy.

The only reason I can come up with is that they really don’t care when it is the Gardai that kill people - the unspoken consensus seems to be that anyone that dies in Garda custody might have deserved it - especially if they come from the wrong side of the tracks.

Tons of outrage (and rightly so) for Mr Geoghegan - calls of ’string ‘em up’ etc.

Yet curiously none for a 14 yr old that may have been killed by the Gardai - I have yet to see any letters to any newspapers calling for us to ignore the civil rights of certain Gardai. No one has suggested stringing up any Gardai that may have been (legalese again) involved in Rossiter’s death. (not that I would support that)

One law for the ’scum’ but a very different legal system operating for the ‘connected’ ones - how the hell do Irish people expect to have a decent society under those conditions?

Brown envelopes for Politicians to make terrible planning decisions that leave massive social chaos in their wake. West Dublin, and many other parts of this island, is a social and planning nightmare for the future - directly the result of those brown envelope shenanigans of the politicians - how many of them are in jail now?

In what universe does a society function properly when there is very obviously one law for the ‘connected’ and a very different one for all others? Can anyone tell me that please, if you know?

Hypocritical Irish Scumbags

Brian Rossiter - just 14 years of age when he 'died in garda custody'

2 very simple Google searches tell you all you need to know about the hypocritical Irish people in 2008.

Google Search pages from Ireland: Shane Geoghegan

Results 1 - 10 of about 37,300 for Shane Geoghegan. (0.18 seconds)

Google Search pages from Ireland: Brian Rossiter

Results 1 - 10 of about 8,030 for Brian Rossiter. (0.09 seconds)

Many people believe Shane Geoghegan was killed due to the actions of feuding Limerick gangsters.

Many people believe Brian Rossiter was killed due to the actions of Clonmel Gardai

Shane Geoghegan was murdered less than 2 weeks ago.
Brian Rossiter was (possibly/probably?) murdered in a cell in Clonmel Garda Station following his arrest in the town on 10 September 2002. - That is over 6 years ago.

A Page from BOCK the Robber, everybody!.

After being castigated by the writer (see comments below, and/or click it and read his comments), I am quoting just a small bit - you really just need to click the link and read it all, it's all there, just go there and read, please, honest it's all there, go please, or Bock will be annoyed, and you really don't wanna do that, trust me . . .

Brian Rossiter — Report on Death of Child in Custody Due Shortly
Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2008

In . . . . . . .

Brian Rossiter
- how much violence was this child subjected to
in his brief life on this earth?



This is a comment I posted to www.Indymedia.ie in relation to violence perpetrated against people in police custody.

In most societies, it is males that cause most of the violence, but those very same societies brutalise their males for more often, and with greater severity, than their females. So what the hell do they expect? Those who are the victims of outrages, quiet often go on to perpetrate outrages on others. Known fact, folks.

By the time a male has left his teens he will have been on the receiving end of far more violence than almost all females will ever have experience in their whole lives.

How much violence was Brian Rossiter on the receiving end of, in his very brief 14 year life?


Here is another comment I posted to www.Indymedia.ie in relation to violence in Irish society in general.

I have no idea if he is innocent or guilty in a moral sense, of the charges the Garda claim they were going to bring against him - and neither do you.

Equally I happen to know, and so do they if they stop to think about it, that the young man was also innocent - certainly in the legal sense - until convicted of this crime in a criminal court - that is what our courts are for, and that is the only sense that matters in our society, as the many Tribunals have demonstrated.

If you are advocating 'vigilante justice', then essentially you are supporting the type of crime YOU all have accused this young man of. For that is what he was apparently wanted by the Gardai for - vigilantism. That fact you can't see that surprises me not in the least. Seeing that would require using your brain for something other than plotting revenge against what you perceive to be the enemies of this wonderful society of ours.

You people demonstrate all that is wrong in our violent society. You're ultra-willing to believe anything the Garda and the Media tell you about the 'sumbags' that just happen to die in Garda custody, and yet at the same time you appear outraged at the level of violence in our society.

There a nice short word for what you are - Sheep, baa baaa, ya bloodthirsty Sheep (bit of an oxymoron there, I know, but I'll leave it in anyway ;-)

For some reason you can't see how the two are intimately intertwined.

It is a pity you appear to have neither the wit nor wisdom to see that.

God help us if you lot are indicative of the Irish mentality - and I truly fear that you are.

You only have yourselves to blame - you are willing to accept violence meted out by the state in our institutions, prisons, borstals, orphanages, Garda Stations etc. . You rail against the problems created in society by the high level of violence out there, and yet don't seem to have a clue how YOU yourselves are contributing towards it.

If you are willing to turn a blind eye towards the violence of State representatives, then yes YOU personally are responsible for the level of violence in the wider society.

But to be honest, I seriously doubt any of you will ever, EVER, comprehend that.

Shane Geoghegan - possibly/probably murdered by Limerick Gangsters



I'd better Name this guy below as well, or someone will get annoyed. Below is the Top Post from an Archive for the 'Brian Rossiter' Category at Public Inquiry, Examining corruption in Ireland

RTE's reporting of the Rossiter case
I was puzzled and to some degree I’m still puzzled by RTE’s coverage of the Brian Rossiter report.

The presenter of Today with Pat Kenny (See previous post) clearly said to Philip Boucher Hayes, who had seen the report:

“You’ve seen the report; the rest of us will not get to see the full report.”

I think the crucial word here is ‘full’. It seems that some of the report has been published but because the former Minister for Justice, Michael McDowell, insisted on setting up the inquiry under the arcane Metropolitan Police Act, 1924, sections of the report must remain secret because the act offers no protection from defamation on publication.

For me, the most disturbing aspect of the report’s release is how RTE news dealt with the event. Admittedly, I’m only making comment here on one programme, Six One News, but the impression given, I think, was that the Gardai had little to answer for.

Viewers were not informed that the arcane legislation this inquiry was set up under would seriously compromise its publication. My understanding is that only a summary of the report has been published. Viewers were not told that they were only getting a small part of the story.

RTE news placed great emphasis on the unreliability of witnesses who were hostile to the Gardai.

While reporting that Brian Rossiter was unlawfully detained overnight by Gardai, RTE emphasised that Hugh Hartnett SC, the reports author, was not satisfied that Brian Rossiter was assaulted in Garda custody.

Viewers were not informed, however, that the report also found there was a statistical probability that Brian Rossiter sustained his fatal injury while in Garda custody.

I’m puzzled here because of the apparent contradiction, perhaps an expert witness came to the conclusion regarding the statistical probability. In any case, RTE did not make any of this clear to viewers.


The overall impression given was that the report was fully published, that all the details of the case were available and that the Gardai were, in the main, innocent of any wrongdoing.

The Rossiter family does not agree and are very unhappy with the report. I tend to agree with them

Brian Rossiter - possibly/probably murdered by Clonmel Gardai

Brian Rossiter died because the people tasked with ensuring that the laws of the State are upheld know that they can act with impunity

The United Nations Commission on Human Rights on 8 February 2005, defines impunity as:

"the impossibility, de jure or de facto, of bringing the perpetrators of violations to account – whether in criminal, civil, administrative or disciplinary proceedings – since they are not subject to any inquiry that might lead to their being accused, arrested, tried and, if found guilty, sentenced to appropriate penalties, and to making reparations to their victims.

How long to sing this song?